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Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: BlarghRawr on October 07, 2012, 11:25 pm
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I'm bored, let's fuck around.
Actually, I've got a real question. What's the science behind curing weed? I think I've gotten a pretty fair grip of it after doing a whole bunch of reading, but trusting my own conjecture would be silly when I have such a great resource available to query, instead. So, SRF...
Any of you guys got the scientific knowledge to tell me what curing really does?
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LOL. Funny man. :P
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I'm bored, let's fuck around.
Actually, I've got a real question. What's the science behind curing weed? I think I've gotten a pretty fair grip of it after doing a whole bunch of reading, but trusting my own conjecture would be silly when I have such a great resource available to query, instead. So, SRF...
Any of you guys got the scientific knowledge to tell me what curing really does?
AFAIK the principal action of a good cure is to retain enough moisture for a mild fermentation to take place (reducing sugars, starches and other carriers of harshness) while not retaining enough moisture to promote molding or rotting.
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Firstly, there is curing and drying, many people get confused, and think they're the same thing, they're not, but they are part of a two step process. Drying is what you believe it is, extracting the water from the buds. After the buds have been dried enough, the curing process can begin to remove the chlorophyll and other compounds that break down, whilst other components such as the terpenes (hydrocarbons found in the essential oils of the bud) will maximize the flavour and allow the aroma to develop (this is bud's equivalent process to maturing fine wine lol!). Both parts are equally important for insuring the quality, flavour, smell, smoothness of your buds is on point. If you take fresh buds, and dry them out too quickly it will taste harsh and very nasty (just like not processing an olive correctly, try eating one raw fresh off the tree, it'll make you cry lol!). Drying takes time, and should never be rushed, slower drying, followed by taking your time curing, produces quality bud. Hope this gives you a better scientific understanding :)
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Firstly, there is curing and drying, many people get confused, and think they're the same thing, they're not, but they are part of a two step process. Drying is what you believe it is, extracting the water from the buds. After the buds have been dried enough, the curing process can begin to remove the chlorophyll and other compounds that break down, whilst other components such as the terpenes (hydrocarbons found in the essential oils of the bud) will maximize the flavour and allow the aroma to develop (this is bud's equivalent process to maturing fine wine lol!). Both parts are equally important for insuring the quality, flavour, smell, smoothness of your buds is on point. If you take fresh buds, and dry them out too quickly it will taste harsh and very nasty (just like not processing an olive correctly, try eating one raw fresh off the tree, it'll make you cry lol!). Drying takes time, and should never be rushed, slower drying, followed by taking your time curing, produces quality bud. Hope this gives you a better scientific understanding :)
It does other things too though, doesn't it? Since THCa degrades into THC at basically any heat, just a different rate depending on the temp, curing also facilitates that process in a slow/controlled environment without letting the terpenes escape, yes? Same with CBDa=>CBD, as well?
As I said, I've done a lot of reading about it. Your answer is pretty spot-on to my current understanding, though.
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Weed is gay. :P
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Weed is gay. :P
What's that supposed to mean?
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I could see why Lim would say that. So why exactly don't you like weed Lim?
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Zen I was just being a dick mate. I just don't like weed so I thought I'd make a silly comment. Wasn't being serious. :)
And I don't like weed because I think it's basically the green and more friendly looking version of smack. People get mentally crutched on it, it makes you slow and stupid, kills aspiration, drive and ambition, makes people fuck their education up, and it's fuck-hard to kick and it can make you into a complete paranoid head-fuck. Also I hate all the complete bullshit you hear people come out with about puff like "Oh it's not really a drug", "Smoking weed can get rid of depression" or my favourite "It's natural so it isn't harmful" there are loads of others but I can't be arsed to think of them. Also I can't stand the culture of it and generally speaking drippy stoners piss me off. Of all my years of drug dealing which are numerous indeed the most problems I have had is with fucking stoners when I used to sell weed. It's the absolute bullshit that they pop that I can't stand like trying to ask for tic at the last minute or claiming they don't have enough money coz "They got stoned mannnn *chuckle* must have just picked up a 20 instead of a 10". Last person who did that got their face on the dirty side of the soul of my shoe and after that I never sold it again.
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Weed is gay. :P
I've given up smoking weed unless I'm completely fucked on something else and it's free available at the time. I hope you're proud.. ;)
I know what you mean though, I don't know a single stoner that made it successfully through the last educational year.. Apart from me, but I wasn't really a 'full on stoner' I guess.
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Although I agree that long-term pot use and the practices that stoners display definitely promotes laziness, I'd say it's up to the individual. I have a friend who'd much rather smoke weed than take his anti-psychotic medication. The killing aspiration part I agree with because it directly feeds the reward centers of your brains.
But personally, if I never smoked weed, I wouldn't be as open minded as I am now. I'd either be a weak, antisocial nerd or a faggot douchebag that looks down upon the lower classes. It has it's place in everyone's life but only a handful of people like Carl Sagan can smoke it their whole lives and still reach their heights.
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But personally, if I never smoked weed, I wouldn't be as open minded as I am now. I'd either be a weak, antisocial nerd or a faggot douchebag that looks down upon the lower classes. It has it's place in everyone's life but only a handful of people like Carl Sagan can smoke it their whole lives and still reach their heights.
Agreed, and I think it's true that weed is a gateway drug, it introduced me to such beautiful chemicals, such as MDMA, 4MMC and 2c-b. ::)
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It does other things too though, doesn't it? Since THCa degrades into THC at basically any heat, just a different rate depending on the temp, curing also facilitates that process in a slow/controlled environment without letting the terpenes escape, yes? Same with CBDa=>CBD, as well?
As I said, I've done a lot of reading about it. Your answer is pretty spot-on to my current understanding, though.
Logically I would agree, however not 100% sure, if there is anybody more experienced please contribute, like BlarghRawr, I find the science behind the process very interesting :)
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Weed is gay. :P
I know what you mean though, I don't know a single stoner that made it successfully through the last educational year.. Apart from me, but I wasn't really a 'full on stoner' I guess.
Exactly. I remember when I was in school (all that time ago ::)) and all the lads I knocked about with that smoked puff FUCKED their education. I stopped it and sorted it out and I succeeded and from the moment I stopped I feel my life improved instantly. :)
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Agreed, and I think it's true that weed is a gateway drug, it introduced me to such beautiful chemicals, such as MDMA, 4MMC and 2c-b. ::)
It introduced me to cocaine, mushrooms, LSD, speed, 2c-b, 2c-i, MDMA, Ketamine, MXE, DOI, DOX, DOB, 4-ACO, Opiates, DMT and alcohol.
Yep, sounds about right lol
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Zen I was just being a dick mate. I just don't like weed so I thought I'd make a silly comment. Wasn't being serious. :)
looks like you and I finally do have a touch of common ground. I also don't like using cannabis. but I do advocate for it's legalization for others.
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Agreed, and I think it's true that weed is a gateway drug, it introduced me to such beautiful chemicals, such as MDMA, 4MMC and 2c-b. ::)
It introduced me to cocaine, mushrooms, LSD, speed, 2c-b, 2c-i, MDMA, Ketamine, MXE, DOI, DOX, DOB, 4-ACO, Opiates, DMT and alcohol.
Yep, sounds about right lol
Yeah pretty much all them minus DOB DMT and Opiates. I did however get pissed before I smoked puff.
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Agreed, and I think it's true that weed is a gateway drug, it introduced me to such beautiful chemicals, such as MDMA, 4MMC and 2c-b. ::)
It introduced me to cocaine, mushrooms, LSD, speed, 2c-b, 2c-i, MDMA, Ketamine, MXE, DOI, DOX, DOB, 4-ACO, Opiates, DMT and alcohol.
Yep, sounds about right lol
Yeah pretty much all them minus DOB DMT and Opiates. I did however get pissed before I smoked puff.
Weed isn't a gateway drug, at least for me. I was interested in many for a long time before I tried any. I was actually on hallucinogens before cannabis. :D
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Interesting, I became fascinated with weed which then got me interested in Mephedrone, then MDMA, coke, 2c-b, etc...
I drunk alcohol way before I smoked weed though.
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Zen I was just being a dick mate. I just don't like weed so I thought I'd make a silly comment. Wasn't being serious. :)
looks like you and I finally do have a touch of common ground. I also don't like using cannabis. but I do advocate for it's legalization for others.
Fuckin ell, wonders never cease! I would even argue it should be legalized too because there is no money in it to sell illegally anyway.
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Weed isn't a gateway drug, at least for me. I was interested in many for a long time before I tried any. I was actually on hallucinogens before cannabis. :D
Weed wasn't a gateway drug for me either, alcohol was, admittedly I even tried coke before I tried weed, I know, I'm in a very slim minority of people for saying this, but it's true. Personally, on the sesh, I prefer to do coke, and have a high grade indica with me, to round my night off. I am not a daily user, I just indulge when I wish to. Like Limetless says, I have seen many loose their lives to the effects of marijuana, but I have also seen many tolerate it perfectly well, like I do. Like everything in life moderation is the key, and if you feel that your becoming to heavily addicted to ANY drug (legal or not), then it's really your time to seek psychological and medical help, and it's always better to seek help as early as possible before it gets out of hand. You only have one life, you must live it for yourself, the moment that you feel your starting to become a slave to anything, you must get out. Keeping the right balance is the key to success for a long and happy life :)
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That maybe the case for you, but I discovered weed and found out about what the government says about illegal drugs is mostly bullshit. This then made me to research into other drugs, this interested me a lot. Which led on to me trying mephedrone before it was banned. As the weed dealer I had at that time didn't sell anything else, I had to find other sources to get MDMA, So for me, my weed dealer didn't have one in one hand, one in the other. If ya get my drift..
People just need to be educated about drugs properly I think, it would help alot.
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PrincessHigh, if you're not just a guy pretending to be a girl on the internet, I'd like to stick my dick inside you
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PrincessHigh, if you're not just a guy pretended to be a girl on the internet, I'd like to stick my dick inside you
Mate, you've got some amazing pulling technique let me tell ya. ;)
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Zen I was just being a dick mate. I just don't like weed so I thought I'd make a silly comment. Wasn't being serious. :)
looks like you and I finally do have a touch of common ground. I also don't like using cannabis. but I do advocate for it's legalization for others.
Fuckin ell, wonders never cease! I would even argue it should be legalized too because there is no money in it to sell illegally anyway.
I don't think it will be legal anytime soon, because it makes the government too much money by being illegal.
anyway, nice to find a bit of common ground.
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People just need to be educated about drugs properly I think, it would help alot.
Yes. A thousand times, yes.
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PrincessHigh, if you're not just a guy pretended to be a girl on the internet, I'd like to stick my dick inside you
Mate, you've got some amazing pulling technique let me tell ya. ;)
That goes double for you cutie ;)
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Zen I was just being a dick mate. I just don't like weed so I thought I'd make a silly comment. Wasn't being serious. :)
looks like you and I finally do have a touch of common ground. I also don't like using cannabis. but I do advocate for it's legalization for others.
Fuckin ell, wonders never cease! I would even argue it should be legalized too because there is no money in it to sell illegally anyway.
I don't think it will be legal anytime soon, because it makes the government too much money by being illegal.
anyway, nice to find a bit of common ground.
Nah course it wont, the status quo benefits all to much. Weed is the one thing I wouldn't be fussed letting go though because I'm not interested in selling it lol. No cash in it, I dunno why people sell it tbh.
But yeah, let's hope it continues.
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Easy tiger. ;)
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PrincessHigh, if you're not just a guy pretending to be a girl on the internet, I'd like to stick my dick inside you
Mate, you've got some amazing pulling technique let me tell ya. ;)
I like a straight talker, no bull, just get to the point. I have an inspiring thought to go to bed now with LOL! Cheers Caparino, you've rounded off my weekend perfectly, and made me laugh at a riDICKulous time in the morning I'd +karma you, but already done so earlier. I'm so sorry your leaving tonight, your going to be sadly missed my friend, all the best for the future! :)
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PrincessHigh, if you're not just a guy pretending to be a girl on the internet, I'd like to stick my dick inside you
Mate, you've got some amazing pulling technique let me tell ya. ;)
I like a straight talker, no bull, just get to the point. I have an inspiring thought to go to bed now with LOL! Cheers Caparino, you've rounded off my weekend perfectly, and made me laugh at a riDICKulous time in the morning I'd +karma you, but already done so earlier. I'm so sorry your leaving tonight, your going to be sadly missed my friend, all the best for the future! :)
YES cap you're well in there mate! ;D but what, you're leaving?!
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Thanks P-High, I'm gonna miss the feminine touch you provided for this place!
Sadly yeah, gtgeorgz, real life calls and I'm about to go into a black hole of physics, calculus, and miscellaneous engineering classes for my double major. Holy fuck, I can already smell the stress... smells like victory and PrincessHigh's cooter AKA more victory :P
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The people in this thread who are against pot yet advocate many other much more harmful drugs are the kids who tried pot and there feeble minds couldn't handle it so they moved on to stimulants as they provided that much needed ego boost.
Apart from that the amount of stupidity that comes from anti marijuana smokers it ridiculous.
"No cash in it, I dunno why people sell it tbh." - Limitless
There is alot of money to be made in the growing of marijuana, considering a pound goes for around $3,500 in my area and im aware thats the going rate for alot of places, then consider that having a cycle that grows 4 pounds every 6 weeks is not even considered a commercial operation i would say you are wrong 14k every 6 weeks is very lucrative considering the penalty would be much less if caught than finding commercial amounts of another substance.
You also mentioned that selling weed was your worst experience because stoners were constantly coming with not enough money yada yada yada, the only thing that can be said is that you must not have ever sold crack on a street level, or anything on a street level for that matter. Pot dealers have it so freakin easy im not sure what you meant.
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The people in this thread who are against pot yet advocate many other much more harmful drugs are the kids who tried pot and there feeble minds couldn't handle it so they moved on to stimulants as they provided that much needed ego boost.
Apart from that the amount of stupidity that comes from anti marijuana smokers it ridiculous.
"No cash in it, I dunno why people sell it tbh." - Limitless
There is alot of money to be made in the growing of marijuana, considering a pound goes for around $3,500 in my area and im aware thats the going rate for alot of places, then consider that having a cycle that grows 4 pounds every 6 weeks is not even considered a commercial operation i would say you are wrong 14k every 6 weeks is very lucrative considering the penalty would be much less if caught than finding commercial amounts of another substance.
You also mentioned that selling weed was your worst experience because stoners were constantly coming with not enough money yada yada yada, the only thing that can be said is that you must not have ever sold crack on a street level, or anything on a street level for that matter. Pot dealers have it so freakin easy im not sure what you meant.
Lol why would I want to make $14K every 6 weeks when I can have 25KG of Meph in 3 days and sell 20 of those £4500 a key in around 1-2 weeks and then max out the profits on 5 on SR which will bring it to £10-15K a key for those 5? 6 weeks for $14K? Fuck that donkey work in the arse. On top of that why the fuck would I want to do a silly grow-op which unless you do on an industrial scale just isn't worth my time.
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Thanks P-High, I'm gonna miss the feminine touch you provided for this place!
Sadly yeah, gtgeorgz, real life calls and I'm about to go into a black hole of physics, calculus, and miscellaneous engineering classes for my double major. Holy fuck, I can already smell the stress... smells like victory and PrincessHigh's cooter AKA more victory :P
Ah man, I see you left already but if you ever come back, which I'm sure you will. ;) I hope it's all gone good for you.
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My first batch of green was very badly cured and it tasted rank. I now take just as much care with the curing process as I do with the growing and flowering process. Takes time to get it right though...the number of times Ive had to revert to quick-dry because of mould..... s'not funny.
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You have to put more effort in to sell weed. It seems any other drug i have moved, almost moved itself quickly. I hate weed O clock. The famous line:"i'll be there in twenty bro." In weed time that normally means an hour. With most other drugs:"i'll be there in twenty." means they show up in twenty minutes or ten minutes early haha.
Also, i like your comparision limetless of weed to downers. Weed does have an unmotivation factor. You end up getting hungry, sleepy, and lazy. I understand people who grow for personal, but people who try to make a business out of it?
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Also, i like your comparision limetless of weed to downers. Weed does have an unmotivation factor. You end up getting hungry, sleepy, and lazy.
THC and related cannabinoids actually ARE depressants
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You have to put more effort in to sell weed. It seems any other drug i have moved, almost moved itself quickly. I hate weed O clock. The famous line:"i'll be there in twenty bro." In weed time that normally means an hour. With most other drugs:"i'll be there in twenty." means they show up in twenty minutes or ten minutes early haha.
Also, i like your comparision limetless of weed to downers. Weed does have an unmotivation factor. You end up getting hungry, sleepy, and lazy. I understand people who grow for personal, but people who try to make a business out of it?
Easy enough. I pay £1,500 a month for some guys to take the blame and grow the money :) I get £30,000 back every 2 months - simple maths :) Even better if you consider you can have many of them on the go and you never even need to touch anything :).
£1500 wont get you loyalty for shit. If they get clocked, they'll roll on ya no doubt about it.
Also StExo can I ask why you don't have a sellers account? Make no sense when you have a thread about it. :-\
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You have to put more effort in to sell weed. It seems any other drug i have moved, almost moved itself quickly. I hate weed O clock. The famous line:"i'll be there in twenty bro." In weed time that normally means an hour. With most other drugs:"i'll be there in twenty." means they show up in twenty minutes or ten minutes early haha.
Also, i like your comparision limetless of weed to downers. Weed does have an unmotivation factor. You end up getting hungry, sleepy, and lazy. I understand people who grow for personal, but people who try to make a business out of it?
Easy enough. I pay £1,500 a month for some guys to take the blame and grow the money :) I get £30,000 back every 2 months - simple maths :) Even better if you consider you can have many of them on the go and you never even need to touch anything :).
£1500 wont get you loyalty for shit. If they get clocked, they'll roll on ya no doubt about it.
Also StExo can I ask why you don't have a sellers account? Make no sense when you have a thread about it. :-\
He's got a point. I've only had two people in my whole life keep their mouth shut. The sad thing is, you have to assume you're going to get snitched on and prepare for that by "limiting" their knowledge of yourself as well as how your business operates. Some people will rat just so they can get rid of the competition. Don't get to comfy and think your homeboy won't take you down with him when he's looking at 10 to 15.
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You have to put more effort in to sell weed. It seems any other drug i have moved, almost moved itself quickly. I hate weed O clock. The famous line:"i'll be there in twenty bro." In weed time that normally means an hour. With most other drugs:"i'll be there in twenty." means they show up in twenty minutes or ten minutes early haha.
Also, i like your comparision limetless of weed to downers. Weed does have an unmotivation factor. You end up getting hungry, sleepy, and lazy. I understand people who grow for personal, but people who try to make a business out of it?
Easy enough. I pay £1,500 a month for some guys to take the blame and grow the money :) I get £30,000 back every 2 months - simple maths :) Even better if you consider you can have many of them on the go and you never even need to touch anything :).
£1500 wont get you loyalty for shit. If they get clocked, they'll roll on ya no doubt about it.
Also StExo can I ask why you don't have a sellers account? Make no sense when you have a thread about it. :-\
He's got a point. I've only had two people in my whole life keep their mouth shut. The sad thing is, you have to assume you're going to get snitched on and prepare for that by "limiting" their knowledge of yourself as well as how your business operates. Some people will rat just so they can get rid of the competition. Don't get to comfy and think your homeboy won't take you down with him when he's looking at 10 to 15.
The only way to guarantee it is ensure they realise they will die if they do anything. It's that cut and dry I'm afraid.
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The people in this thread who are against pot yet advocate many other much more harmful drugs are the kids who tried pot and there feeble minds couldn't handle it so they moved on to stimulants as they provided that much needed ego boost.
Apart from that the amount of stupidity that comes from anti marijuana smokers it ridiculous.
"No cash in it, I dunno why people sell it tbh." - Limitless
There is alot of money to be made in the growing of marijuana, considering a pound goes for around $3,500 in my area and im aware thats the going rate for alot of places, then consider that having a cycle that grows 4 pounds every 6 weeks is not even considered a commercial operation i would say you are wrong 14k every 6 weeks is very lucrative considering the penalty would be much less if caught than finding commercial amounts of another substance.
You also mentioned that selling weed was your worst experience because stoners were constantly coming with not enough money yada yada yada, the only thing that can be said is that you must not have ever sold crack on a street level, or anything on a street level for that matter. Pot dealers have it so freakin easy im not sure what you meant.
See this is a prime example of a post that never need to be typed and posted.
Pointless bickering.
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